BSP, be as harsh as you care, I can handle it.
All this AA-lite, take it easy on me is nothing but COMPLETE B.S.!
People die from this disease, I've lost several friends already. Mamsy pamsy puff and fluff stuff sucks.
If you carefully read my post (s), you will find I suggest getting involved in a "program"! True, isn't it? Further, I never called him a dry drunk either.
While I am involved in AA, it does not matter to me one damned bit how someone gets AND stays sober........AA did save my life, so I am in fact partial.
I do not have any info re: any other program, therefore I will keep my big mouth shut regarding any/ all of them.
BUT you see BSP, gaz has not even been to AA by his own admission. I was encouraging him to get there now. NOW! NOT later.
AA is a simple program, but not easy. Ya' gotta work it!
Tom
PS: gaz, suggest you review the word "lure" carefully. Attract maybe?