Dandy, yeah, my son gave me the verbal finger when he turned 18 and said he would live with his dad full time and no longer had to do anything I say because he is 18 and made the choice to live where he can do what he wants when he wants with the blessing and financial backing of his alcoholic dad...WHO, BTW, blamed ME for what is happening with our son because I left. My XAH can't be a true father; all he seems able to do is be a buddy who gives gifts of money. My X is the path of least resistance that is most attractive to my teen. But, it's my fault for breaking up the family, not my X's addiction.