All this is heady stuff and i can assure all of you that I'm not a genius. But the ONLY way I was able to quit was thru prayer and faith in a higher power. I think sometimes as a group we overlook this important element in our salvation from certain death in dealing with this disease. Science, willpower, support groups, all these are good things. But from my own experience, faith in God got me sober and is keeping me sober. It's that simple.