Originally Posted by
fred59 
DayTrader I do know the difference between a real alcoholic and a heavy drinker so do not be condescending I am 57 and I know what an alcoholic is, and most definitely one does not need God to get sober if that is what you mean by one who has all power
Considering this is specifically a "12 Step support" part of the SR forum, would you be willing before you depart to tell me where in the 12 steps you read that?
Or is it possible you're here to not support 12 steps but something else?
And honestly, I'm not being condescending, several of the posts I've seen that you've written are exactly the opposite of what the 12-step program is all about. There's no sense of superiority here, I promise.