Yeah davaidavai, I know what you mean about the irritation of not being able to connect with people in AA when you don't have much going on outside AA. Friendships do develop in AA. I've heard people talk about getting together to go here and do that, so it does happen. These people usually stick with themselves and don't seem open to including new people. I hate to admit it, but I will probably hold some resentments towards AA because of all the work I put into trying to be included and being turned away so many times. There's a difference between accepting AA on AA's terms. That's easy. But the feeling of rejection goes much deeper than that. Hopefully, you can rise above the disappointments you have endured better than I have. Not a healthy place to be. John