Thanks you two, this is great, I am new to the internet. I am going to AA tomorrow Lunch time. I have been before but did not stick with it, if only I did. Had a bab day my wife found out once again that I was drinking, and is threatening to throw me out of the house with nothing, to be honest I dont blame her, she's heard all the promises before, why should this time be any different. hanging on by my finger tips. Really glad I found you all Thanks Diger