Originally Posted by
NoelleR 
I don't do any of those things, but could you state where in AA (literature) it says you're not sober if you do?
You keep referring to abstinence from all mind altering substances; where exactly can this be found in AA literature (hint: it can't; it's NA)?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobriety
"Sobriety is the condition of not having any measurable levels or effects from mood-altering drugs." Alcohol is a mood altering drug.
Pretty clear. This is how everyone I know in AA defines sobriety. Those who don't are not successful in staying sober.
I spoke with my sponsor about this concept of being able to call yourself sober if you are doing everything under the sun to get high but drinking alcohol. He told me to get off the computer and get to an AA meeting where I can be around those who live in the AA solution.