So, here's the thing, and then I gotta get some work done around here (on a Sunday - God forbid): I've been sober since 2013, and I feel solid in my sobriety (always remembering Phillip Seymour Hoffman). I recently took a couple of classes related to CAC certification (Certified Addiction Counselor), and I have to admit that my struggle is less with the 12 Steps themselves, and more with questions of ethics if I find myself working in a capacity where I am more or less required to recommend AA. I'm comfortable having this conversation here, but I wouldn't post this stuff on the newcomers thread or have this kind of conversation with freshly detoxed or considering detox folks. If AA keeps people alive for awhile - more power to it! My concern is on a subtle but significant level, AA sometimes does harm.