Originally Posted by zjw

couple years for me. i started excercising i guess that sorta helped but even then I went through a phase where i was getting only 2 or 3 hours of sleep a night and oddly felt great and functioned fine despite the lack of sleep this went on for months too it was very strange.

I also had the added benefit of kids so even nights where finally things where going ok ALAS i'd get screwed becasue one of the kids would have me up for whatever reason.

But finally now years later I seem to do ok now ::knock on wood::

One ODD thing i quit caffine you would think that would help right? Not in my case on mornings where i have a cup of coffee that evening i tend to sleep better.