My daughters and I were talking last night on how to handle him. We didn't know if we should go the compasionate or mad route with him. I do know that what ever I say won't really make a difference. Like you said they feel bad and then do it again. He,they all, have to be held accountable for their actions. Its one thing to want to hurt themselves. But when they drag family and innocent people down with them its just sooooo sad.