I can honestly say that I truly believe there is NO "normy" or normal person. I think that everbody has a set of values, ideals and can think for themselves. IF they can drink "normally'...good for them. I can't. I think that whatever may be normal for one is abnormal for another. You put it all together very well Mark........kahlia....stilll very abnormal....and trying to reach the top of the mountain still.........