Originally Posted by
thotful Even if I was perfect and eloquent with my statements, my father will still drink.
This is exactly right. It doesn't matter what we say, how perfect we say it, how much we say it. It just doesn't matter. Most of us have tried it all to no avail. This is a basic tenet of our struggle. I'm not saying flee from this guy, but evaluate and find a knowledgable counselor if you can. At least posting here gives you a second opinion so you don't feel alone.