DF, I feel your plight. It is hard to get through to folks in the program that belief in ANY such benevolent "power" is not gonna happen. I used to insert "common sense" whenever I heard HP or god but the implications that one would eventually come around gets old. I can listen to any person's drunkalog and easily sift through the god-talk and find a lot of spiritual truth (doing the right things gives right results) but when the whole group insists I must find an HP, I gotta go. The next obvious suggestion would be start an AA Agnostica, Smart or a MYWAY group. The benefits would be enormous for your spirit and you could help millions(?).