In 50 yrs. this discussion would never take place. The internet is making Sense Common and I couldn't be happier. Although my post was deleted, it's sentiments were echoed by many with craftier responses. I have not been drunk since quitting drinking. Nor have I had a desire to drink that could not be addressed with some very human capabilities. I also tapered, at home from a hefty, around-the-clock habit but not w/out months of real research (by real I mean digging for published medical data that is not endorsed by television doctors). This very forum helped me frame this seeming disorder into order and for that I am grateful. I had a Holy Ship! experience of the human variety and it seems to be permanent. Thanks Jazz for stoking the coals!