Funny thing is, AVRT is NOT SECULAR at all---it's all-inclusive. It does not mix the apples of getting sober with the oranges of any particular religious practice or none at all. A Hale-Bopper (Heaven's Gate) could do it just as well as the Hitch. It's a bigger net and works well with anything else. Yes, Jack Trimpey is a bit grandiose and opinionated--much like a guy named Bill. Anyhoo, it worked well for this alcoholic. Now it's time to get busy livin'. Happy New Year to all!