Serindad, I really don't think he knows and if they said it to his face he would give them a mouthful of some reality and some not so much reality. He may become down right beligerant. Which I know me I would probably get a chuckle out of it. This guy is an old crochety loner cat man. Yes he's a little outside of the box for the group, but I just dont get the lack of empathy when each and everyone of them suck up air over every darn thing that's right or wrong with their life. I think I am going to discuss with a counselor how it makes me feel and not make it all about what they r doing . That's what I want to explore why is this bothering me. Why can't I not care about what they are doing. I think , pretty sure this is some kinda repeat . One that I would usually drink over. Thx for chiming in!