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Old 04-22-2005, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Recoveree
Right...and your post indulging him in his insanity is helpful how????. Your post is actually responding to the insanity of his questions. Whats up with that.
We are not pharmacists here anyway.
No, I'm not a pharmacist... then again I gave no information about benzos that any addict doesn't know already. Half life applies to any drug, but it's of particular importance with addictive medications. If you bothered to read through my post you may have noted that my main goal was to subtly imply that EightBall may be taking too much medication(s), and not for the reasons they're intended. Let me indulge you once more. That's why I closed my post with:

"If you're "just feeling tired" and "nodding out", perhaps you're on too much of one of (or both) the drugs. It's not a drug that's meant for "slowness, relaxation, and peacefulness", it's for anxiety and panic attacks. It's very habitual, has a huge abuse potential, and abrupt withdrawl can lead to seizures and death. Not a drug to play with."

Originally Posted by Recoveree
The post is from sopmeone who wants to figure out how to make his drugs work better, not how to stop. That should be obvious from the extremely high dose of methsadone and the desire to take more drugs on top of that to get high...he wants to "feel the slowness, relaxation, and peacefulness that I once felt".
Who are you to judge what they're here for? Read your 12 traditions!

You call me out for simply stating some factual information about benzo half-lifes, but you're going to question EightBall's methadone dose as if you were an addictions specialist with the title of M.D. after you name? A little hypocritical of you, don't you think?

How do you know EightBall's past intake and history?

Maybe the question is a little insane, but I can relate to that someone as an insane addict. I am one, and I always will be one without ever having to use again. NA is about identification, not disqualification. Stop disqualifying.

Did you think that maybe the reason EightBall is on a sobriety message board in the first place is because he/she knows there's a problem? Did you think that maybe they're not as fortunate as you to have gained full insight into the disease of addiction and all the insane ways it manifests itself in our lives and thoughts? Maybe they're tired of hurting from drugs but they're not ready to give up yet? If you've been around rooms long enough you see that a lot. Not everyone is so priviledged as to just be able to put down the dope and recover.

We're not here to make rock-bottoms for anyone else... and every addict is entitled to their pain if they wish. Some people linger for awhile before they surrender. Last time I checked, all that was required in NA is a desire to stop using. Obviously being on methadone means they're not using something else, correct?

Who are you to judge someone else and how they make it to recovery?

Originally Posted by Recoveree
If someone is lame enough to come to an place where we are all about not using drugs to ask for " good experience with taking benzodiazepines", then a little dose of sarcasm is what he is gonna get from me.

I am not going to enable him.

If someone wants to stop using, well then thats another story.
What's lame is your attitude to an obviously sick addict. Don't enable them... but don't insult them either!

Last time I checked we were all about using drugs, Richey. Did you make it into the rooms of NA for another reason? Please, indulge us all if that's the case.

Eightball is on methadone and a benzo, and my post isn't going to change that. Maybe a little questioning about the reasons for said meds (as I did) will instill the seed of recovery.

I would imagine it's more of a message of hope than your inferring that they use cocaine

Originally Posted by Recoveree
I'm sorry you don't see the therapeutic value of my post.
Well, I'm glad there's nothing wrong with my eyes because there is no therapeutic value in your post. In fact, your type of "sarcastic" yet "therapeutic" post is the type of thing that drives people out of rooms... or message boards. Some of those people never make it back, and that's something I know that I would never want to be part of. Maybe you need to do a little Basic Text reading and remember where you came from before you start lambasting sick and suffering addicts.

I can only keep what I have by giving it away. I'm not plagued by a life of giving grief and sarcasm to others... so maybe that's why I have the attitude that I have. Recovery has brought joy to my life, and dumping on an addict that's obviously still suffering wouldn't be me giving away what I've been gifted with.

I'm sorry that you don't recognize the therapeutic value of my post. Try to show some empathy for the person still using. Humility isn't such a bad thing. We don't have to play tough and knock people down to plant the seed.

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