Thread: How stupid am I
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Old 11-16-2014, 02:51 PM
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desypete
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Originally Posted by Hammer View Post
Ok. Do not really follow what that means, but I guess since I do have experience in this . .. well I am not really sure what that even means in your context. But let's go on . . . .



No one said ANYTHING about single parent or anything related to that in this discussion . . . did they? I mean other than you, right? That is where this is coming from? Your projection that not treating an A "special" or that the "kids-come-first" some how equals that Boo, or I, or whomever will suddenly find themselves a single parent?

I will grant you that some or even many A's will or may have a Throw-down, Crybaby, Temper Tantrum when we stop doing the Caretaker routine.

Mine did. Total Temper Tantrums . . . a few times over. Threatening to relapse, running around to anyone who would listen making up just ridiculous lies. Telling the kids lies to the point they wound up in Alateen and just quit listening to her nonsense. In the end, she -- as most A's -- just wound up making herself look like an ass.



Yep, would agree that for many A's that "A" should really stand for A-hole, and like a real Anus, they will try to sh1t on everyone and everything around.

We have discussed that with the Rabbit and Bear story. You know that story?



Understood.

We (Alanon) even discuss that condition in our opening to our meetings . . .

"... we discover that no situation is really hopeless, and that it is possible for us to find contentment, and even happiness, whether the alcoholic is still drinking or not."



Who do you believe is doing that?



The only folks I see on here who are urging ANYONE to break up families are pretty much from our side as High Drama folks. They self-create terrible crisis in their own households and then urge others to do the same. Most folks just sort of drive by or view them as a cautionary tale.
i must admit trying to understand exactly what it is you mean is a little bit confusing for me

but i will take it that you are a single parent like me and that you know how hard it is to live without an income coming in unless of course your with a wealthy type of drunk who is able to keep you in a style to which you are accustomed etc

i take it you understand what its like to have to work and rasie kids on your own etc

believe me i would rather be the way i am than in the madness of it all with my ex wife all over the place, however i do hope she does one day find recovery as i have

i dont hold any axes over her as i know just how ill she really is

but the point i was trying to make or understand what you was on about when you say put the kids first

to me i had to put the kids first
1 i had to get sober so i could have them back again
2 i had to make sure my ex wife was out of the picture and even then she managed to hurt one of my kids emotionaly as the other kids didnt want to know her anymore out of shame

however they still love her underneath it all hence i would hope she gets her act together and starts to become a real mum again.

but i am sure you understand what i mean and that you have been through it all yourself
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