Disease? Obsession of the mind? Weak-will or just plain f-ed up?
Who knows?
All I am sure of is that I pick up one drink I am sure I will want a few more after that.
Originally Posted by
Boleo 
...I once discussed this with a 50+ year sober old-timer. He told me to pay attention to peoples actions and ignore their words. He was right, when it comes to recovery - action speaks louder than words.
Although I have been in AA for many years I don't know a lot of members outside of the context of an AA meeting. Now, a lot of members talk a good game inside the rooms but how well they function outside in the world is what really counts.
Originally Posted by
ScottFromWI This is a very tired argument. And it doesn't have one Answer that fits all, it never will. Is this really beneficial to anyone outside the small circle of you few who incessantly debate it here?
No, but it is fun.
Originally Posted by
MIRecovery My first sponsor who has 37 yes of sobriety...summed it up to me with the following.
"I don't have a clue as to who will make it and who won't. I have been wrong do many times I have given up trying to figure it out
And there it is.