cHRIS, I had to about pinch myself to make sure I wasn't dreaming cause all this time he has denied everything to me and not got help..I couldn't believe how easily he went with the recovery guys I hooked him up with..That seemed to ease him having these other guys in recovery..Even though he didn't confide in me the extent of his addictions, he did confide in them..And for now, that is good enough for me..I hope he dedicates himself to a life in recovery..I really do..(but am not counting on anything)