Originally Posted by
Stoogy 
I don't see why any number of relapses should do you any harm with a view to long term sobriety as I always believe we learn more from failure than we do from success.
Yeah but take any task that we could possibly fail or succeed at and I would say that yes we do learn from each failure, but we learn less and less with each failure relative to the first few failures.
If I've relapsed 10,000 times what could I possibly have learned in the 10,000th relapse that I didn't already know. And if we assume that I did learn something, then how significant is that something compared to what I learned in the first few relapses?