And, you know, I would rather be accepted in a place that gives me room to grow than have come into the "old-school" style rooms where addicts/alcoholics are told to "sit down and shut up"... I get it now, but coming in, I woulda said "the hell with this" and never come back. The way I see it, there are many more addicts/alcoholics coming into the rooms earlier in their addiction, which is a good thing. They are also less likely to be sure if they are willing to surrender, and I would rather see people relapse and make it back than leave the rooms in anger and never return.