Hi Upset, Good point, never thought of how society(glass house neighbors) have damaged them, how judgement hurts. I was never a big supporter of tough love, I prefer to call it "gentle love", plus i dont understand it, I don't want to hurt them, I'm just not experienced enough to do it. They have no income so to buy illegal drugs is questionable, unless she's stealing from me again, plus the younger AD is drug tested every week. Always negative. The older one is not tested yet as she is on a visitor Methadone guest dosing until,she goes back to school, then she may have some explaining to do?..? Anyway, the day is over, the pain has lightened, the memories are strong. Gonna try to take a shower, read some other SR threads and posts, relax and breathe, breathe and breathe some more. Talk to you in the morning friends. TF