Originally Posted by
whiskeyman 
we are not intuitive, we have all lived this too.
Yep. We speak from experience, not intuition. We are all part of a club that should never have need to exist. Alcoholism ruins lives, but we have the ability to choose to not let it ruin ours. The A does, too, but the only person we can change is ourselves. If love were enough to get them sober, none of us would be here. I learned today that my alcoholic mother is in end stage alcoholism and hasn't eaten in three days. There used to be a time when I would yell and try to force her to see what she was doing "to us." And now I don't feel much of anything except a sadness that this is what she has CHOSEN to do TO HERSELF. It has nothing to do with any of us. Al-Anon and SR gave me the tools to get myself into recovery, and I know they can help you, too. We are here for you, so keep reading and posting.