Originally Posted by Tuffgirl

Good, if it made you feel better, and hopefully helped to clarify your own personal boundaries. Because right now, clarifying those boundaries is essential, especially when your kids are in danger. But do we need to tell people our boundaries? Or simply live them instead? Which would hold more power in your situation?

And do know it doesn't matter what you say or don't say right now. He isn't hearing you. His alcoholic voice overshadows everything, including his good judgment and reason. Yes, it is that powerful. And yes, he already knows driving the kids around when he is drunk is not OK. Can't be a grown up in this country and not know this. He knows. He just can't stop himself once he's put that first drink in his mouth.

Originally Posted by Tuffgirl

You need to teach your kids how to protect themselves, be it from their drunk-driving father or a drunk-driving fellow teenager. This is a lesson they need to learn, and sadly it comes from within the home first. Tell them to NOT get in the car with him. Be prepared to cover all rides anywhere. If you tell him anything, it would probably be best phrased as something like this: It will be a cold day in he!! before you get behind the wheel with our kids in the car again. If you want that to change, there is an AA meeting at (location and time here).