Honeypig, thanks for your advice - I think I will forward the link to his mother for alanon and say I'm thinking of goin you're welcome to join me. I guess I feel a wimp on here ar everyone else seems to have had much longer relationships, but I guess if I'm feeling this bad after a relatively short one it must have been more Hellish than I realised at first. I'm determined not to get drawn back in - I started to read about effect of alcoholic on children and lookin at my daughter I couldn't put her through that - easier I suppose as she is not his cut my ex husbands daughter so not the same attachment. Each time I feel a bit weak il pop on here and read a thread and it will strengthen me again.