Clean, I tried playing with them, but I wasn't good enough. I can kick some butt on Mario Kart though
Mine are only a year apart so they entertain each other. I play Words With Friends with them until they beat me ;-)
I haven't tried the chat meetings, I'm usually on my phone or tablet. Do you go to them?
Tired, have you ever tried an inversion table or even hot tub for your back? My husband had back surgery when he was younger and deals with pain daily. The inversion table didn't really help him but I know it works for some people. He takes some weird supplements called bio- tools or something. I think it is Advocare. He swears they make his better.