GT, thanks for that clarification. There is a world of difference (it would seem to me) between someone talking about drinking as a “success” before, as opposed to after, a “big plan”. I take it then that by not addressing drinking that occurs after a “big plan” that you disagree with Jack Trimpey, as quoted by fini. You will remember that the thread was started with this quote,
"People who have made a Big Plan do not have relapses, or even lapses; they never drink or use again”.
At least in part, that seemed to be what fini was getting at when this thread was started, i.e. the drinking that takes place after the “big plan”, and the circuitous nature of the logic that judges the adequacy of that decision by subsequent events.