Thanks woozy you are so right I can tell myself after a few days see you have it licked no probs only two beer after work or maybe Saturday a six pack or Wednesday mid week a couple etc etc etc so many lies to myself and then it everyday I cant remember my last day without drink ....and oh yes you cant be an alky you only drink beer never well hardly ever the hard stuff except maybe some rum you daughter has or some of her wine so many many ways to fool myself............................................ ...........................