BTW Robby, I apologise if I overstepped the boundary for this thread, when I tried to describe my experiential difficulties in using both AA and AVRT etc; I gave the example of my lovely sponsor only to illuminate how my dilemma has played itself out within myself, and may continue to for a while yet.....until you and others further elucidate HOW to actually DO that separation of which you spoke. Sorry, shocking syntax. If you'd prefer such details be restricted to PMs only, please PM me before I offend anyone further.