Thanks for your replies. I understand and can tolerate the serenity prayer to an extent. But the thing is there are good meetings close to me where that is said at the beginning and the 'lords' prayer is said at the end. It makes me want to walk out before the end, because it truly makes my blood boil, but I don't want to appear rude, and I like the people at those meetings. Ah well. I just don't know anymore, 6.45am here and yet again doesn't look like I'll be sleeping, which probably isn't helping the thought process...