I'm kind of confused here. I don't think I've ever seen ridding ones life of alcohol taken to the form of competition as I have here. It's like we are selling cars or something. For myself, getting sober was serious business...Life and death serious. Nobody scared me into AA. It was recommended to me by my rehab...Mainly because of my history of not being able to stop on my own. My hat's off to people who can stop on their own....If I could have....I would have. But at least I didn't have people trying to talk me out of it. I thank God for that. ...My suggestion to you would be this. Try it on your own...Try AVRT...Try reading Allen Carr's book...Try Smart recovery....Try anything you can...If none of these or anything else works....As a sober member of AA I can tell you.... .It does...And it won't be going anywhere anytime soon.