It's hard to come up with something different to say as it seems the feeling is pretty unanimous. I have seen, done and said everything on both "sides" of this thread. I can see the lying baastard that used to be me saying all the right things (because we all really know what is right we just don't do it) and then getting mad when caught stumbling over my own bullshiit. Getting mad is an attempt to make it YOUR problem rather than his. It is no longer his problem for lying it is your problem for not believing him. Even though reading that may seem like really stupid thinking it seemingly works on a sufficiently buffaloed codependent.