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Old 09-27-2012, 04:24 AM
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tomsteve
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falling off the wagon happens, but is not part of the process. there are many, many, people that got and stayed sober the 1st time. i didnt. the cause was the same thing i have seen quite often in others: i didnt do anything to change me and my thinking.
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