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Old 09-26-2012, 06:14 PM
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tomsteve
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my point is that AA is not exclusive to alcoholics. you may want to read the 12 & 12 on the 3rd tradition.

when it comes to listening to people who talk about who gets sober and who doesnt, i will personally believe what the BB and dr silkworth, a man that worked with over 40,00 drunks in his lifetime says, and thats that many die even if they find the thread of recovery through AA. it has nothing to do with their sponsor, if they worked the steps, if they went to 21 meetings/week, if what they were doing was authentic AA or not. it is the disease of alcoholism. its what it does.

i have listened to chris r, too. from what i know, he became more open minded and changed his thoughts on some of what he used to believe and made it possible to practice love and tolerance better.
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