Yeah, didn't see any SMART meetings in my area, either. Do like the AVRT thing, though, which I saw on here. Makes a lot of sense to me. I'm mostly familiar w/ AA, Alanon, Women in Sobriety, and here, and I have to say Here is great! It's not the face-to-face, but perty derned close. I've gotten something from all of the disciplines I've been exposed to, so I think if ya keep an open mind and try a few it helps.