Originally Posted by
RiverFriend 
Guess I'm not done flirting with the idea that maybe I'm not an alcoholic as Toronto Guy accurately put it.
I had to get honest with myself and answer this....
If, when you honestly want to, you find you cannot quit entirely, or if when drinking, you have little control over the amount you take, you are probably alcoholic.
pg 44
I lied to myself about that for too many years.....Save yourself some misery if find either of those true.