Originally Posted by
stugotz 
"Just quit drinking already" just aint enough. The problem is "internal" so just quitting doesnt fix anything.
It certainly fixes the problems caused by drinking.
Originally Posted by
stugotz No untreated addict can ever recover on abstinence alone. The drink/drug is a symptom of our true problem, and that is what we see in the mirror.
Speak for yourself. I don't consider drinking and using a symptom, and I can recover from addiction just fine on permanent abstinence alone.