Yes, I am fully aware of the spirituality difference, LOL... that is why I wanted to specifically exclude that from my discussion of what I saw as similarities between DBT and the least spiritual of the steps, 4th in particular...
And, LOL, I feel very very personally empowered.... But lets not go there, I was trying to look at similarities between very different recovery programs, maybe even build a bridge or two, not set fire to them.
I think there are some universal truths and concepts in recovery, the more I learn about all of them, the more I see.
