Well i was just expressing my own experience with those other "successful" ways to recover that almost killed me.Since my experience is that every other thing i tried failed to bring about the spiritual awakening that i needed to stay here i wont endorse them.AA has a way out ,The first step opened my eyes to my truth the next 11 steps change that truth.And relapse is not a requirement for membership here.The greatest promise the book give me is that no further authentication will be necessary or in other words i never have to drink again.Not by my power but through the Power that the steps allows me access too.God Bless