Old 02-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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wpainterw
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If "nothing works" then why am I here? And why are you here after your success with AVRT? Thus we must go to the first alternative, of optimism, that all "methods" are equally effective. If reliance exclusively on "counseling" is a "method" then I have concluded from 30 years of empirical experimentation that it was totally ineffective in my case. And as for statistics, I am not part of the statistical base since no one ever followed up to see how I was doing. Finally, I have encountered many many persons who recovered from alcoholism so cannot believe that "nothing works". Of course they could all have been liars and I also could be a liar. This brings us to the famous logical paradox. "The Cretan said, 'All Cretans are liars'. Was he too a liar?"

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