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BackToSquareOne Most won't give up an addiction until the pain outweighs the pleasure. Is there really any magical formula though that will bring a person to that place?
Yes, there is: good old-fashioned pain and suffering, or the threat of more pain and suffering. Yes, contrary to the popular recovery lore, ultimatums do indeed work. By far one of the most effective is when one's employer gives the ultimatum, since an employer can and usually will take a far more detached, matter-of-fact attitude than friends or family would.