Oh one more thing Vip... I too , have NEVER once stepped foot in any NA meeting (even when I quit for 15 years). I made up my mind this morning, that at 7 tomorrow night, I am going. It is easier when in Rome to "do as the Romans do", and if you are with a bunch of peeps who WANT not to use, I figure the chances are that much better I keep myself out of harms way. Give it a shot ok? I am.