Old 09-28-2011, 06:12 PM
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FT
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Thank you for the clarification.

I am just reminded of the person undergoing forced "sobriety", as in someone who is incarcerated or being forced into a rehab facility. I just can't get behind the idea that those people are "sober" except in a technical sense.

I really dislike the word "sobriety", so I'm glad AVRT doesn't endorse it in particular. I especially hate it when it becomes a calendar event, which is why I feel if I am abstinent, I am abstinent. The trouble I have with not using a mental construct of intention is that anyone can call themselves abstinent (or sober) any time they are not putting drugs or alcohol in their system, regardless of the time elapsed (anywhere between 0 minutes and infinity), so in fact the daily drinker or drug user is actually "abstinent" as long as they are asleep or not otherwise using.

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