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I just used this example. I also said that like having a child, both parties have to be committed to the idea. In my situation, I felt like both of us were saying that we didn't want children...but one of us was lying about taking birth control pills.

As for the line...I often told my XH that I couldn't tell him where the line was for certain because, unfortunately, I would only really know where it is when I was over it. That ended up being exactly the case.