Hey SeekingCalm - what if they say, "AA ain't it for me. I don't like therapy." I like your response but I've already gotten that response back. The latest one I was sticking to was Detox. "No one can help you until you help yourself?" I get the impression if I say "I'm sorry I can't help you" it will turn into "I reached out to her for help and she turned me away. wahhhh. Now I'm drinking even more...."