Well like you've already noticed everyone has their own bottom, some lower than others. I knew when I hit my bottom when 1) I realized and admitted that my life became unmanageable 2) when I could no longer control my drinking but my drinking controlled me 3) realizing that I was beaten and done, I just could not go on drinking anymore. I was fortunate enough to walk in the rooms and raise my bottom. I heard the similarities in the stories people told, where they started and where they ended up. From that I knew if I kept on drinking it would be a matter of time before I was living on the streets or sent to prison. I don't want either of them, so i work my program to the best of my ability.