Originally Posted by
Duped 
I think in a lot of cases it really does go so much more deep than mere drug and alcohol use. So many of them are frauds, con-men and liars. It's pathological.
I got sucked in this weekend myself, it happens, and now I need time to get back to sanity.
I spoke with my exAGF's ex-husband. He reminded me that, nope, I am not losing my mind when I talk to her, it well and truly is like losing your grip and entering into her own private reality. He's dealt with it for ten years and had his sanity taken apart in various doses.
I don't see it ever changing. He reiterated to me once again that is has always and will always be the alcohol. The denial has become so huge that you cannot being to take apart the layers.
Hey Duped,
I also had contact with my XAGF's exhusband just recently. She had painted him to be a socio-path and I bought it hook, line and sinker. After we spoke, he told me the same things, we compared stories and it was all the same. I don't feel as crazy about it anymore and it helps a great deal when coming to acceptance of who she has become because of the addiction.
There are just a few people left for her to lie to now, almost all of our mutual friends are done. She does have a new man in her life, but he is just getting started in the madness.
We no longer have to live in the craziness, the truth has set us free.