Old 02-10-2010, 11:52 AM
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sailorjohn
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Originally Posted by Kiki14738 View Post
Just a question:

How long does it REALLY take for the addict to stop trying to manipulate? Even when they are working their program and doing well? Does it boil down to a behavior that needs to be modified after sobriety or are they predisposed for manipulation and THEN comes the addiction? Just a question open for opinions.

Kim

BTW- Things are going well for me.
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I think the most helpful insight comes from the old AA saying: "What do you get when you sober up a drunken horse thief? A sober horse thief."
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