Originally Posted by
bugsworth 
Plenty of the founders of which you speak didn't stay sober...why is that?
I really don't know what percentage of the first 100 (or more historicaly accurate 75 or so) stayed sober long term. I know Hank P. went back out, and I think the documented Cleveland members had a very high success rate. But I really don't know. I'm basing the success of AA by those with whom I have personal contact. Those who thoroughly take the steps stay sober. Those who don't, generally don't, although I see some that do.
But can you answer my question about how do you help those people? Is that the best we can do, just tell them don't drink and let them figure it out?
Dunno. I think we can do better. If all we, as recovered persons, can offer someone is don't drink and figure it out, we have absolutely no need for treatment centers, AA, or this forum. Good luck everyone, you're on your own.